Plato 6 - Overhead Plato 4 February 11, 2008 page 1...

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Overhead Plato 4 February 11, 2008 page 1 Socrates vs Callicles (start page 51) Outline: A) Callicles' position B) Socrates' reply: 1) preliminary clarification a) Stronger? b) more what? c) superior should rule 2) Self-control a) Callicle's: good = maximum pleasure b) Socrates' model of pleasure c) all pleasures good? 3) pleasure not = Good a) simultaneity b) Cowards and fools
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Overhead Plato 4 February 11, 2008 page 2 So far: the claim from Polus discussion: Oratory = skill which works against a person's own best interests. A) Callicles' position: Socrates has committed the FALLACY OF AMBIGUITY: Example: if x has been done, x is doable. So, if x has been accepted, x is acceptable. Sexism and racism have been accepted. _____________________ So, sexism and racism are acceptable. “acceptable 1 ”= “has been accepted or is accepted” “acceptable 2 ”= “OUGHT to be accepted” "just" has two meanings just by nature: strong have greater share just by law: equality, fairness B) Socrates' reply:
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