2007 - 2/10/2007 reading is p. 383 - 388 platonic dialogues...

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2/10/2007 reading is p. 383 - 388 platonic dialogues plato - greek. his works come to us from latin translations of text kept in islamic holy sites trail of intercultural mixings that lead to our possession of his works -plato wrote everything in dialogue form -piety - seems straightforward, but when socrates asks questions, things look shaky. socrates shows us that the interlocutor knows less than everyone thinks he does socrates executed my the athenian people (demos) 399 BCE greeks - actually lived in democracy our government - representational oligarchy men voted in greece. .. greek landowning male of age could vote or sit on a jury jury in athens - 500 men large so it's a real feeling of democracy, large groups of citizens voted on everything that happened. peloponesian wars - athenians started collecting money/shit, spartans defeated them spartans instituted an oligarchy in athens that came to be known as the thirty tyrants (if you were athenian they were tyrants at least) so athens = democracy ----> not democracy anymore?!? athenians embarrassed at losing the war. especially because spartans implemented a sort of tyranny in the polis (the state). loss of identity. rule by tyrants didn't last long, spartans just didn't want to give up their stuff. conservative impulse at base of athenian actions after spartans leave. in the middle of the 4th century BCE Socrates comes into the picture. socrates is ugly (greeks value attractiveness), but doesn't matter because he's super bright. he went around asking people stuff that showed just how little everyone actually know. socrates did this because the oracle at delphi said that socrates was the wisest person in athens. socrates gathers a following, especially
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