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07GorgiasLec5 - TRAD 104 Callicles' Rejection of...

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TRAD 104 Callicles' Rejection of Conventional Morality I. Callicles' opening complaint A. Although Socrates objects to rhetoric, he himself acts like a rhetorician, a "true popular orator;" he doesn't care about getting at the truth, but takes advantage of popular prejudices. B. Socrates, in particular, relies on the conventional scruples of Gorgias and Polus: Polus is too embarrassed to disavow the conventional view that it is more contemptible to do wrong than to suffer wrong, just as Gorgias was too embarrassed to admit that he doesn't teach his pupils justice. II. Callicles' distinction between what is admirable by convention ( nomos ) and what is admirable by nature ( phusis ) A. Convention is a rule or norm that depends on human action and decision, on peoples' accepting or observing it; nature by contrast, is the way things [ really ] are apart from human intervention, or independently of human wishes or beliefs. B. Callicles maintains that what is considered admirable by convention is not really
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This note was uploaded on 04/14/2008 for the course TRAD 104 taught by Professor Freeble during the Fall '08 term at Arizona.

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07GorgiasLec5 - TRAD 104 Callicles' Rejection of...

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