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Unformatted text preview: 1-10Italian Communes 12c.-15c. self government organizations a challenge to the formal government of the towns Emperor appointed bishops and nobles to govern Italian towns quite a lot of disturbance (everybody fight each other) Origin Power Vacuum in theory, religion and secular government are complimentary in practice, the spiritual sphere of the Church manifests itself in the real world bishops were unusually trained people secular rulers used them as governments who then has jurisdiction over the bishop? who picks that bishop? clerics who punishes him when he commits a crime church has courts and so does government if its a crime, church calls it a sin and it is theirs to deal with if its a sin, government says its probably a crime and is theirs Church has property who has jurisdiction over that property can it be taxed or is it exempt? Emperor crowns Pope interpreted as a statement of hierarchy Emperor vs. Pope 13c. Pope supported the communes Popes sees Emperor Frederick as a threat moved to Italy (close to the pope) has an actual working kingdom has a tax machine Pope orders Frederick to go to a crusade against the turks...
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- Fall '07