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Homer's Illiad 2 - Fate in the Iliad Iliad Tuesday June 2...

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Fate in the Fate in the Iliad Iliad Tuesday, June 2
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Iliad 7 and 8 In Book 7 Hector and Ajax fight a one on one duel with no decisive winner. In Book 8 – Zeus forbids the gods from intervening in battle Zeus’ golden scales (8.81 ff.):
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Embassy to Achilles Odysseus – cunning orator Phoenix – wise old man Ajax – great warrior Achilles’ response to each Speeches -- how does each speaker persuade Achilles? To what does each man appeal? Come upon Achilles singing the klea andrōn with his lyre
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Ransom vs. Revenge Another perspective on timē apoina = ranson (e.g. what Chryses first offers for the return of Chryseis poinē = revenge, compensation (e.g. what Chryses resort to when apoina doesn’t work) Relationship of these terms to timē “All but my prize of honor.” (9.447) “No, not even then could Agamemnon bring back my fighting spirit round until he pays me back, pays full measure for all his heartbreaking outrage!” 9.471 ff.
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Odysseus Describes the threat of Hector. Reminds Achilles of his father’s words (9.308-313). Lists the gifts sent by Agamemnon. Among the gifts, Briseis His daughter’s hand in marriage + a dowry Repeatedly emphasizes, “End your anger!” If not at least, “Pity the Achaeans.”
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Achilles’ Response to Odysseus Still hates Agamemnon.
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