CL36Sp08L13_Phdr_Ab - CLASSICS 36 LECTURE THIRTEEN LOVE AMONG THE PHILOSOPHERS PHAEDRUS 243C-257B 1 Greek"homosexuality 1.1 More accurately a

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C LASSICS 36: L ECTURE T HIRTEEN L OVE AMONG THE PHILOSOPHERS : P HAEDRUS 243 C -257 B 1. Greek “homosexuality”? 1.1 More accurately: a practice of bisexuality, especially in the elite class, which went hand-in-hand with the segregation and inferior position of women. 1.2 Conventionally asymmetrical: older man, younger boy; man gets pleasure, boy gets patronage, entry into society, education into the ways of gentlemen. 1.3 Soc.’s emphasis on the extent to which the boy reciprocates his lover’s desire is therefore unusual (255e-256a). 2. Recollection and beauty 2.1 If recollection of the Forms is a something every human being must apply when using general concepts (249b-c), is it merely a process of concept-formation, which everyone can do? But then why would some, on seeing a beautiful person, recollect Beauty itself better than others, while some do not recollect it at all (250a, 250e-251a)? 2.2 This suggests that the ability to reason and form concepts would be a precondition of philosophic recollection, which would consist rather in taking that concept and thinking about it , not just with it. Compare Republic 510c-e on geometry: although we all learn to operate in space (e.g. to judge distances), the geometer does not just operate in the space created by his diagrams but uses them to think about the triangle itself, the square itself, and so on. 2.3
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This note was uploaded on 06/08/2008 for the course CLASSIC 36 taught by Professor Ferrari during the Spring '08 term at University of California, Berkeley.

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CL36Sp08L13_Phdr_Ab - CLASSICS 36 LECTURE THIRTEEN LOVE AMONG THE PHILOSOPHERS PHAEDRUS 243C-257B 1 Greek"homosexuality 1.1 More accurately a

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