Plato SG's

Plato SG's - SGBook1a 1 ( 2 ,Polemarchusslave,,and...

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SG Book 1 a 1. Socrates goes to Piraeus to attend a religious festival (“I wanted to say a prayer to the goddess Bendis”). 2. Socrates and Glaucon run into Polemarchus, Polemarchus’ slave, Glaucon’s brother Adeimantus, and Niceratus, the son of Nicias. They end up at Polemarchus’ house. 3. Socrates is warmly greeted by Cephalus, Polemarchus’s father? 4. According to Cephalus, the burdens of old age have to do with “the way people live”, whether they are/were content or not, their adequate/inadequate wealth, and/or their fear of going to hell (Hades) from doing injustices. (Speaking the truth and repaying debts). it is people’s character and habits that make their lives either easy or hard to bear. Also, their fear of what their afterlife will entail according to how wealthy they are. 5. They discuss the burdens of old age, the value of self-attained wealth, and the desire to carry out injustices. 6. Cephalus is an old educated man who inherited large sum of family money. Socrates presents Cephalus as a wise man and Cephalus speaks in a rational, calm tone of voice. 7. I believe Caphalus to be a fair and rational man. However, it seems as though he may not have always been when he says that if old age was the cause of evils than he himself should have “suffered in the same way.” 8. Caphalus uses anecdotes and proverbs to back up his arguments and beliefs about justice. This shows he is an educated man in literature however it also seems that he doesn’t make any of his own conclusions for his own arguments and beliefs. 9. Caphalus definition of justice is one’s ability to speak the truth and pay back his/her debts. 10. Socrates uses an example of a sane man loaning weapons to a friend and then later, as an insane man, asking for them back. Socrates shows that if the friend gave the weapons back to his then insane friend (paying back his debts), that this would be unjust: giving weapons to an unstable person. Socrates proves that Cephalus’ definition of justice, paying back debts and being honest, isn’t consistent in this example because a man paying back his debts and being honest by giving his lent weapons back to his insane friend would be unjust. I partially agree with Socrates in that this action would be unjust, however Socrates claims this wouldn’t be just without offering his own definition of what justice is. But Cephalus agrees with Socrates’ refutation anyway. 11. 12. Polemarchus’ first definition of justice is to return something to someone that is owed. And his belief in justice comes directly from Simonides 13. Polemarchus revises his def’n of justice to: friends owe it to their friends to do well for them, never harm. He then says that justice gives benefits to friend and does harm to enemies; that to treat friends well and
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This note was uploaded on 04/30/2009 for the course PHIL 231 taught by Professor Staff during the Spring '07 term at Cal Poly.

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