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Monday, September 10, 2007 12:00 PM Euth. Piety, then, is that which is dear to the gods, and impiety is that which is not dear to them. Pasted from <http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/euthyfro.html> Euthyphro's Definitions of Piety The "Euthyphro dilemma": Do the gods loves piety because it is pious, or is it pious because they love it? Question for reflection: Does God command what God commands because God sees what is just and unjust by nature, or do God's commands determine the very standards of the just and the unjust, right and wrong? 2nd definition: Piety =df what the gods love. Fails because: (a) Euthyphro holds that the gods differ about what they love and (b) a single action cannot be both pious and not pious. 3rd definition: Piety =df what all the gods love (Compare: the right, the good is what God loves or approves of.) Fails because: (a) the reason for applying a descriptive label is not the same as a reason motivating a particular action (although each may be indicated by the word "because"). (b) "what all the gods love" is a descriptive label applied correctly just in case it matches the facts, which in this case would be something being loved by all the gods (c) the motivating reason for all the gods loving some X (and all actions including loving have a motivating reason) is, Euthyphro asserts (pushed by Socrates), that X is pious (a descriptive label). But then: (d) the motivating reason for the gods' love presupposes the truth of the descriptive label, to wit, that X is pious, and independently of being loved by all the gods (otherwise, there could be no motivating reason). Piety is, then, loved by the gods because it is pious, though something may be said to be in a state of being loved by the gods simply in virtue of their loving it.
Pasted from <http://link.lanic.utexas.edu/asnic/phillips/pages/302/euthyphrodefs.html> 1st definition: Piety =df what Euthyphro is doing, namely, prosecuting his father. Fails because: it does not show why other pious acts are pious (indeed, it does not show why Euthyphro's own act is pious). Homework: (Two Pages Max) Encapsulate (state briefly and succinctly) the arguments of Socrates in the Euthyphro against the definitions of piety offered. Concentrate on the third definition (p.\ 9e in the standardized page numbering, p. 11 in the 2ndedition translation by Grube): "the pious is what all the gods love." Does Socrates prove this definition to be inadequate? What is your opinion? Try to reconstruct Socrates' argument.
Pasted from <http://link.lanic.utexas.edu/asnic/phillips/pages/302/302.F07.html> Make each sentence relate to Socrates conclusion. Discuss premise and reason. Either agree with all or disagree and specifically argue that premise/reasons. Motivating reason for pious is different from labeling reason. PHL302 Page 1 ...
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