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Ishamel Ch9-13 - Ngoc Bui English Comp.3 Sec#9 Lisovsky...

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Ngoc Bui English Comp.3 Sec#9 Lisovsky Ishmael Ch.9-13 Q&A Chapter 9 1. This chapter is complicated yet compelling. What are Quinn's most memorable points in this chapter? What is the lesson behind Ishmael's parable in 9.4 through 9.6? (Try not to get too involved in the minute details of the story: these can be confusing.) Quinn’s most memorable point in this chapter is the assertion that Takers, who think they have the knowledge of good and evil, can decide who shall live and who shall die. Because they have the knowledge of gods, the Takers believe they are equals to gods, with the wisdom of what is good and evil and how to rule the world. Hence, everything they do is right and must be done. With this in mind, the Takers rule the world with agriculture being the key to growth and power. They grow without limit as they wipe out all the Leavers so that more land could be under cultivation. And as removal of species continues, man will eventually eliminate himself. In the end, agriculture is not a cause, but instead, a subject to mankind’s destruction. The lesson behind Ishmael’s parable in 9.4 through 9.6 is that man’s flaws of selfishness and ignorance are the key to the fall of all living species including his own. Being human, we all have a “Big Man” inside of us, always wanting more. Throughout history, man has changed all orders of nature in order for all to serve only his growth by eliminating useless species. This is true today; the increase in population density of mankind has led to the extinction of various species. 2. 9.7: Then he examines Genesis 3, the Adam and Eve story of the Garden of Eden. Make sure you understand how he re-reads the ancient text. What new layer of meaning do we get from the story knowing that it did not arise in Taker culture but rather is a Leaver myth explaining the rise of Taker culture? The story of the Fall of Man, which the Takers take as their own, was in fact developed by Leavers to explain the origin of the Takers. From this we learn that the Garden of Eden story was told from a Leaver point of view to explain why they were being killed off by the Takers. We learn that the gods forbid Adam to have the knowledge of good and evil because this would be an ascent, not a fall. With the knowledge, Adam may decide who shall and who shall die. And because he believes he is of equal to the gods, all his doings are good and must be done at all cost. Ultimately, Adam represents the first agriculturalist to say yes to unlimited growth even if it is a curse that will destroy all in the end.
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