10GorgiasLec6 - TRAD 104 Socrates on Justice and the Life...

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TRAD 104 Socrates on Justice and the Life of Pleasure I. Clarifying Callicles' Conception of Natural Justice A. Are the properties of being superior, better, and stronger all the same? Callicles: Yes. B. But a group of people each member of which is weaker than a single person can together overcome that individually stronger person. C. It follows that the collectively stronger are superior to the collectively weaker, so that the former's dominating the latter is, from the standpoint of nature, an instance of the fine and the just. D. But then the masses’ imposing the conventional conceptions of the fine and the just on the individually stronger is, from the standpoint of nature, an instance of the fine and the just – contrary to Callicles’ view. E. Callicles gives up the identification of the superior with the stronger. He moves to the view that the superior are the individuals who are cleverer and braver than others, and these individuals should have more political power than the others. (Is Callicles still
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This note was uploaded on 05/05/2010 for the course TRAD justice an taught by Professor Smith during the Spring '10 term at Arizona.

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10GorgiasLec6 - TRAD 104 Socrates on Justice and the Life...

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