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TRAD 104 Socrates on Justice and Happiness: Is Justice Sufficient for Happiness? I. The Question a. Socrates and Callicles both assume that any virtue, if it is to be genuine, must benefit the virtuous person, and do so by making that person happy (well off). b. At this point in the dialogue, Callicles' conception of true justice as natural justice has been discredited, and Socrates is introducing another conception of justice, one on which justice truly benefits the just person, by aiming at his/her true good, instead of aiming indiscriminately at just any pleasure. The question is, does possessing Socratic justice suffice to make one happy? II. Socrates answers, 'Yes.' (470e and 507b-c) III. Possible grounds for this answer a. Self-discipline, in ordering the soul, makes it easier to get conventional goods (learn to be satisfied with what you have, avoid seeking bad, because self-destructive, pleasures, etc.). b. True virtue is incomparably more valuable than people commonly think, so that the
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This note was uploaded on 05/05/2010 for the course TRAD justice an taught by Professor Smith during the Spring '10 term at University of Arizona- Tucson.

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10GorgiasLec7 - TRAD 104 Socrates on Justice and Happiness:...

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