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Hauptman 1 Danielle Hauptman Eyal Tal Justice and Virtue 15 February 2010 Socrates vs. Callicles I have been challenged to extract an argument from a dialogue between Socrates and Callicles. Socrates brings up a number of arguments against Callicles’ position that pleasure and good are the same, then the argument turns on the claim that pleasure and good can coincide. I will layout the argument as well as evaluate it with premises pulled from the text. The claim is based upon the argument that pleasure and good can coincide and the conclusion is based on them being the same. With both of these positions, Socrates uses his best arguments to make Callicles agree with his point of view and as one will see that is exactly what occurs. I will then determine my view on these claims. The extraction is pulled from lines 895e through 897a on pages 84 thru 87 and can be laid out with premises as follows: Good and bad cannot occur at the same time Pleasure and pain can occur at the same time Pleasure and pain at no point will be equal to good or bad
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Hauptman 2 One of Socrates first arguments is based on a person with an eye infection, he states; “For instance, you know that a person’s eyes can be in a diseased state, and we say he’s got an eye infection?” Callicles agrees and Socrates continues “He hasn’t also got healthy eyes at the same time, has he?” (Plato, pg 85) Callicles,
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