Plato - Republic Book 2

Plato - Republic Book 2 - C. What is justice? 2. Move from...

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Republic Book 2: 1. Thrasymacus' challenge taken up by Glaucon and Adiemantus Three classes of goods: desired for effects (good meal), in themselves only (working out), or both (health). Which is justice? Ring of Gyges--> a Shepard named Gyges find a ring that makes him invisible, uses the power to become king (by murdering the old one), and seducing/marrying the Queen Problem posed: to show justice is desirable o apart fro reputation o apart from frea of gods (what if unconcerned about human, or can be easily appeased?) Questions: A. If you would never get caught and didn't have to worry about an afterlife, how would you live your life? Moral life? why/why not? B. It Th correct that if injustice is practiced on a grand enough scale, the person committing the "crimes" will not suffer the penalties accorded to those who commit far lesser crimes; indeed he will often be honored and praised.
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Unformatted text preview: C. What is justice? 2. Move from the individual to the city • Basic City o need city because no one is self-sufficient o division of labor (45)-- note role of merchants and wage-laborers (46-7) everyone will focus on what they're best at o peace and good health, sex and wine, live to ripe old age (47) • Luxurious City o need more land o need an army- hired army o dog comparison to gov. control 3. Construction of Kallipolis: Need for guardians • Special nature required: spirited and "philosophical" • Education of children: stories to be modified and censored • o Gods can only do good [in fact true, says S, so gods not cause of all that happens to people o Unhappiness is a deserved punishment o Gods can never change form or deceive o Censored stories not "true falsehoods," but false in words only o no gods or profane stories...
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This note was uploaded on 02/15/2011 for the course PHIL 182 taught by Professor Cdavidschweickart during the Spring '11 term at Loyola Chicago.

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