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Unformatted text preview: 2/7/12 transcript06.html Introduction to Ancient Greek Histor : Lec Sep embe 25, 2007<< back e 6 T an c ip P ofe o Donald Kagan: We e e di c ing, in he b oade en e, he eme gence and he de elopmen of he polis and pecificall I had been elling o abo Han on' heo abo he de elopmen of he famil fa m and he indi id al ho o ked he famil fa m a a c i ical elemen in ha o . No , ha ame indi id al ho p od ced he economic he e i hal ha o ld ppo independen indi id al , ho a e no nobleman, and ho co ld cond c hei li e in an a onomo a and ho fo gh l ima el --fo gh hei a on o go e nmen al bodie hich allo ed hem o pa icipa e in he ke deci ion , poli ical deci ion , and all o he deci ion in he a e ha e ed he elemen of hei cha ac e and of hei place in he o ld. Tha i he one ha I an o n o oda . Thei ole a oldie , figh ing fo he common ca e--and ha common ca e no being no an indi id al goal, no a famil goal, b he goal of he en i e ci ic comm ni , hich a coming in o being and I ppo e o ld ha e had o come in o being, in o de o ha e hi ole, figh ing fo one' polis. The le of a fa e ha eme ge in hi pe iod, appa en l fo he fi ime, i ha e call he hopli e phalan and each half of ha need o be e plained. Hopli e come f om he G eek o d hoplites and hoplites i b il a o nd he o d hoplon hich i he name of a kind of hield ha he infan men, and e a e alking abo an infan fo ma ion he e, ca ied. Yo an o ge o of o head he no ion of a hield ha ' a li le hing ha o can mo e a o nd i h one hand, like ha , eal ea ; ha ' no ha i a . I a a g ea o nd hield abo h ee fee ac o and i had--le me ep o he e o ha I can ho o . Can o hea me back he e? I ha all igh ? Imagine a o nd hield of he i e I' e alked abo and one of he hing ha ' impo an i ha a he end of he hield, he igh end f om m pe pec i e ha a g ip on i , b in he middle of he hield, he e i al o a kind of a loo e piece of lea he hong ha o can p o a m h o gh, o ha he hield i e ing in pa on ha g ip and on he g ip ha o hold a hi end. Yo need o do ha o be able o con ol he hield ha ' a big a ha and a hea a ha , beca e i i made f ndamen all of a hea ood, picall co e ed b lea he , ome ime i h ome b on e, a b on e hee ac o he f on of i a ell. Tha i a e hea hing and i ill eigh o do n af e a hile. I ' going o be eall ha d fo o o main ain ha g ip on ha hing all h o gh he co e of a hole ba le, b ha hield i he ke , hi hoplon hich gi e he name o he o d hopli e, o hoplites, hich i hopli e. Phalan mean ha he e men, each man ca ing hi hoplon, a e lined p fi of all in a line, b ha line i ep od ced going back, o ha o end i h abo -- picall , a phalan o ld ha e been eigh men deep, eigh o deep, and ha block of oldie , ho e e long i i , o i made p--i called he phalan , hich mean ome hing like olle . I ' beca e he phalan o ld ha e looked, if o e e p on a hill ome he e a ching i go b , a ho gh ome hing a olling ac o he plain a he men en fo a d and looking p e fo midable, o ha an hing in i a o ld be mo ed do n in he no mal co e of e en . So ha i ha e mean b he hopli e phalan . I ' a co e of hea il a med infan men in a olid block. Oka , hen did hi come in o effec ? I'm going o a o oda ' alk b gi ing o ha ha been he anda d and o hodo in e p e a ion of ho he hopli e phalan o ked, hich, I hink, again Han on ha gi en he clea e and mo ef l acco n . B a o kno al ead , f om ha o ' e ead, hi ha come in o g ea di p e in ecen ea and I'll j a a li le bi abo he di p e befo e e ge h o gh oda . B ha I'm gi ing o i he old fa hioned adi ional in e p e a ion. B ha ie , he phalan o ld ha e come in o being ome he e be een abo 700 and 650 B.C., hich i o a af e he ea lie poleis a e in b ine , and C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX12.477/ /transcript06.html 1/13 2/7/12 transcript06.html acc di g hi i e e a i , ea ha e he g i g ge he . N b d c d be e ac e ab h hi ce ed. O e f he big a g e ha i a f hi i he did hi de e e f e a f figh i g c e ab ; a he ic , e a a e f a fe ea , did i e ch e ie a g i e. The e e e c i ic f he adi i a i f ie d a e ce ie , ha d ' ge he f b h i e phalan ha I i be de c ibi g ,e e i ge he fif h ce B.C. B agai , e ' a e i i he adi i a a . S , if i agi e hi i g i g a he polis c e i bei g, e e de c ibe ha a h i e a i e a d he de c ibe ha he phalan a i e a d h he e a ed a d ha a e e f he c e e ce f hei c i g i bei g. The h i e hi e f i a ed b , fi f a , he hie d a d ec d f a , a e c i e hi ab hi defe i e ca aci ie , he ha a ce ai a fa ec hi b d . He ha f hi head a he e ade f b e, e ha eighi g ab fi e d , he e a e a i a e; he d ha e diffe ed f e e e deg ee. A e i a e e e , he d ha e had a b ea a e ade f b e, e ha a ch a 40 d . He d ha e a ed ac hi hi , g ea e , f i e he hi g a d ha a ca che i ba eba ea , a ade f b e. The hie d i e f, a I' e d i ade f a hea d, c e ed b a ea he b e hee ab h ee fee ac , e hi g i he eighb h d f 16 20 d h f hie d a d g i ed a I d bef e. S ab hi h i e, he he ha e e hi g a d he he hie d i i ace, agai e e f de a e hi , he gh be c e ed b e i d f defe e f head e. The i hi he e ha c e e hi face a d c e i e a . I ' ade f g e a , i ' g e hi i be ab e ee aigh ahead, c e ed ; e e hi g e e i c e ed , a g d e i c e ec a e . I ' e ha d ee e ch a d ca ' a he e e ch b aigh ahead. Y h d ' be ab e hea e ch ei he , a d i ' ha e bee de igh f b ea he f he hi g, a h gh e i f ee, b i ' c e ed b a e iece. S he e' hi g i h hi he e , i eigh--I' ig hi . I a a a -- de f ba he e hich a e --I' d e ed a i h ea he e i h a face a . Wha d he eigh? G a f ba a e he e? I hi he eigh a . I hi he ' e e hea , i deed, b I d ' h ch he eigh. A a , if i agi e f ig a de f ba he e , i h ha a i f f , d begi ge a idea, begi ge a idea f ha i a i e ha e ha b e he e head. S he e a e i h ha . The e e be ha g hi g a d d fee ; ha e hi b ea a e. N , be ee ai a d hi g a d he e' e e de ica e e i , a d he e' a . Tha ' ha hie d i f . Y hie d h d c e ha e i . Y a ha hie d ha i e e ee he e , i ' g i g be a a ce ai di a ce b i i a g d he e i eed g d he e. If e e hi g g e igh e e ' be ab e e e ae ,b h d be a a e ha he e a e ace he e a e ea i e e ab e f e e , a d ha i , if eb d ca c e i ab e hie d, h a i g i g be a aiab e hi , a d if eb d ca c e i de hie d he e ab e a ea i be e ab e i deed. S , h e a e ace he e ee e e ge ded a d i ed, if ha ca be d e. 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