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Unformatted text preview: 2/7/12 transcript10.html Introduction to Ancient Greek Histor : Lec Oc be 9, 2007<< bac e 10 T an c ip P ofe o Donald Kagan: We e e e a i i g S a a, he i a , I hi , f he ea poleis, ce ai ce ge i he e e h a d i h ce ie . A d I a de c ibi g he f a c i i f he S a a , ha i g e i ed he i g a d he gero sia, he c ci f e de c i i g f e -eigh e ec ed e e i a d he ig c ea e a b d f hi . The he e i he S a a A e b hich c i f a he ad a e S a a ci i e , a d a i a e , i ea igi a ed f he idea f ha i g he figh i g e a ici a e i deci i a d he ' e he i d f deci i ha d b ed e e he fi deci i he a e b ie ade. A d i he ca e f S a a, I dg e a he deci i he ade e e e i f he he g a , he he a e eace, he he a e a ia ce a d f h. N , i' h e i i g ha ha a e b -a di i g i h ha a e b f ha I' de c ibe h ab he A he ia A e b . I hi a e b , i i e ha a ad ae S a a e e a ici a , a d e ea a ha he ca e he ee i g d e ed i hei ii a if , a a e i c di g hei hie d , beca e he a e i a he S a a , he a he e ded a b h i g a d ba gi g hei hie d . Whe e , he e idi g fficia d de e i e hich ide had he de i e. I ' i e a ice e i e f ee i g , a i e bi ec f .A d , fc e, if he e idi g fficia decided ha he c d ' e hich ide had he i e, d he e a e a a i i e he B i i h Pa ia e , h e i fa e ha ide, h e ed he he ide, a d he dc a d d c e he e . I a h gh he deba e i he a e b ee bab i f e e , beca e a be e ca fig e i , e d g e ha i e ha ca e bef e he a e b -- e e bac a d a bab e a i e ca e bef e he a e b , b h e ha did, if he e a a ag ee e he a f he gero sia a d he i g , i he d , he e g i cie , if he ag eed he e d be eed g , he e igh be e ega eed g he a e b , b he e d be deba e a d he a e d i g f a d. H e e , e ch a g fa fa i gge i g ha he e e e a a deba e i he a e b . The e a e deba e e ed i Th c dide , hich a e i e fec c ea ha he did, b i i h i ig ha fa a i f a i g e , he e e h e a h e a e b ie e e he i g , he gero sia, a g f e e I ha e ' e i ed e , he ephors, he fi e ephors. I' de c ibe hei i ai f , b f he e he a e a a e ec ed fficia f he a e. I h , he a e age S a a did e e ea i he a e b , i a ea . S i ' a de c a ic a e b , e e h gh e e i g e ci i e i he e, if he a be. S , ha ' a f he i ed a d a he c f i g a ec f he a e b . Le e he ephors. The e, acc di g S a a adi i , e e i de e e f he S a a c i i . The d ephor c e f he e ee ha ' g i g . The e e, i a ce ai e e, he e ee . O e f he i g a d ee ha he i g did ' d a hi g i e , i ega , i e igi e ch a ha e f c ed ha a d gge ed ha , a ea igi a , ha ec he S a a f e ce i e e , e ce i e beha i b he i g he i g' hi g a a a hei chief f c i . Tha , I hi , i igh . I hi b he i e he S a a a ea i hi , e ephors d ' d ha . I ea , he i ha e he ech ica c C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ /transcript10.html e ed e ha a e i he d hich ea e ee, hei d ie a ee a ch , a hi g f ha i d, a d a ha hei ai f c i a: , a d ha hei f a chi g a d fif h ce , he d ha , b ha ' ha 1/13 a a e i he i h ce i i a e ie e 2/7/12 transcript10.html ' .W S , ephors, , , ephors , , .B gero sia gero sia , , ephors , , ephors. A .A -ephor. S , , ephors. T ' , I .T S . ' ; , S J S .T , ' , , .S , , . , ephors , .A , , gero sia . .T gero sia ; gero sia , , . I , , S , N , ephors , , ' ' , N , ephors .I .O gero sia ephors , , , , , , S .A , S ' , .S , I I .T gero sia, S ' ' D ' , . T ephors .K , A R , ephor. ' . , S P P H S S , C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ /transcript10.html , .P H perioikoi S S . -.T , , L 2/13 2/7/12 transcript10.html po e ion , i i e m ch an oliga ch . The Spa an no mall ill like o ee o he a e oliga chicall go e ned. The ill no like o ee ei he e eme. The on' like democ acie and he on' like an fo m of a oc ac hich in G eece picall ook he fo m of ann . So, he Spa an gain a ep a ion of being-beca e he of en figh again an -- he gain a ep a ion of being ho ile o ann , hich b ing o a en ion o he bjec of fo eign polic , e impo an fo Spa a and fo he G eek o ld, beca e a I hink I men ioned befo e, he Spa an became he fi a e o be in command, o in con ol, o o be he leade of a coali ion of a e . No fo a pecific p po e onl , b a pe manen coali ion of a e hich he ancien G eek efe ed o a he Spa an and hei allie , hich mode n chola ha e come o call he Peloponne ian Leag e, and I g e I ill e ha e m and o 'll ee i all o e he place. I ' an imp eci e e m beca e ome of he membe of he--le me a a be e e m fo i o ld be he Spa an alliance, hich i ha p e m ch he G eek called i , beca e no e e bod in he Peloponne e a a membe of he Peloponne ian Leag e and no e e membe of he leag e a in he Peloponne , b ill e all ill kno ha e' e alking abo hen e peak of he Peloponne ian Leag e. I hall o emembe o peak of he Spa an alliance mo of he ime. Well, ho did i come o e i ? Again, a in mo hing in G eek hi o , he beginning a e h o ded in legend and a e no ab ol el clea , b pe hap he place o a i o a ma be a o nd 570 B.C. The Spa an ho had been cce f l appa en l in ning a o nd, o ome con ide able deg ee hei defea back in he e en h cen in figh i h A go and e e e panding hei infl ence and po e in he Peloponne , ffe ed a defea in he egion of A cadia o he no h of Laconia-- ha b he a i mo n aino co n and poo picall , ela i el peaking and i p o ided ome of he o ghe a io in he G eek o ld. So, i ' no mi acle ha he Spa an had a ha d ime p he e. I look a ho gh a ha poin , ha omebod in Spa a came p i h a b igh idea hich changed he na e of he Spa an i a ion, and al o in od ced ome hing ne in o he G eek o ld a he ame ime. The defea ed he o n of Tegea, hich i loca ed j o he no h of Laconia. I ' a e impo an a e fo he Spa an , no j beca e i ' he neighbo igh o he no h of hem, b beca e emembe ha I old o , if o an o ge o M cenae f om Spa a o can' go ac o ho e mo n ain , o go o go p no h and hen go lef , go e in o M cenae. Tegea i igh he e he e he oad n e . So, i a egic impo ance i e g ea . The Spa an go in o hi a i h Tegea and he gained con ol of Tegea he e he claimed o ha e di co e ed he bone of he g ea Home ic he o, O e e and aken i a a f om Tegea, he bone I mean, and b ied hem a Spa a. Al o, he e a a legend ha ma be he p opaga ed ha ho ed p in ome poe e ha e, ha Agamemnon had mo ed f om hi home ba e in M cenae o Spa a, an a emp , in o he o d , o connec he e Do ian Spa an i h he legend of he g ea men of he Achaean o ld de c ibed b Home . Finall , e a e old la e in he i h cen , King Cleomene ho a one of he agg e i e Spa an le ho e panded he po e of Spa a, aid on one occa ion, "I am no Do ian, I am an Achaean." Wha ' hi all abo ? Well, i look like a he Spa an begin o e end hi leag e ha I ill be elling o abo in a min e, he an o ed ce he amo n of e i ance ha he ' e going o ge in o. Do ian' e Achaean ill eem o ha e ome meaning o he G eek . Remembe he b ine abo ha happened in Sic on hen he an of Sic on made hi ha p di inc ion in fa o of Achaean again Do ian . I gge ha ha di i ion among he G eek people hadn' died do n e and I hink ha ' ha ' going on he e. Spa an a e ing o claim nion i h he Achaean no dominance o e hem. C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ /transcript10.html 3/13 2/7/12 transcript10.html A , .T , S A S A S C .I ' G A , .A C , ' C P C ' .T S .I , hegemon , , ?O , .B , .A ?T S S , .W , . S S ' , P L P , ' R . .Y , , .W ' S , S , ' .B , S S A . .W .S ' , A .S S /transcript10.html .T .Y P .E ' A , A .F , -L , S , N , W S , --I' T , T , . ' , .T ' , , S , ' I' . , T -S , : hegemonia , de po e . I ' S A .W , . , , , .S W Y .S , , , ' , , , .T S N I' , , .O , , , , C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ .T S S , , S ? ; .T .S , 4/13 S 2/7/12 transcript10.html S .I .H ' , S I ?A S , , .T . , S , , , , .B ,I , .I ' , ' ' , I .A , , ,I T T , ' . ,I , I , , P P , .B S I S ' ?B , G , .T ' ' I T S , I , , .T , , , H .I' , . H , , ' ' ' . , , W S , S G , .S , S ' , ' , , ' " ." A . , S , , I S , ' '; P I , , , P S S S I , .A G G ; , W , ' S G , I' , W , ' S S ; .I , , , , I A .N L . B I' S C ' ; ' ' - , , A , , C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ /transcript10.html 5/13 2/7/12 transcript10.html M . T , S S S .I , T P , .B .S , A N .W S .S , .T ' , . A R , , .W , , , .W , T S , S S .T . , S ' , .I S S ' , ?I' ,I , ' A A S , ' P . ; ' .I ?T ' , ' , A , P S S , .T , ' , , H , ' S I H , I , ' , . S S .S , S , A S -, , , S , , S , S .T . ' , .M , .S , , , .C , , S S .I ? , , , ' , ; , G , S S , .N , .A ,I , ' .T , 6/13 C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ /transcript10.html 2/7/12 transcript10.html , .B , W -.T .T I , ,P ' A . A ,I .T I ' A I S .I A ; , , -- ' 1,000 A .H ' poli N ,A .N A .O A P .S , A , , , A , I' , A A C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ /transcript10.html , , .W ?B , .T ' S H .T , , . G , .A I ,A .N , poli . S , , ' G A ; A poli , , A .O .I A A , ' . G ; , , , .F .O , A , . ; , ' A .I , .B A .T ' A .I poli ' ' .L ' , , , ' , . , ' ' ' , S , A , , .I , , G A ,A , G .O , , , , ' A , , , . 7/13 2/7/12 transcript10.html A henian e pe ience i he ma ble ha come f om Mo n Pen eli. The G eek call i no Pendel, and Pen elikon i ha he ancien G eek called i . In he no hea e n po ion of he A ica Penin la and i p od ce-- o can ill go ee i onde f l, bea if l fine g ain, hi e ma ble and ha ' he ff ha he Pa henon and all he o he b ilding , emple , on he Ac opoli and a o nd A ica a made of and ha enabled he A henian o b ild ho e emple a fe ci ie co ld, beca e he e i a i ing in hei e i o , no a o ce of he kind of emendo e pen e i o ld be fo o he a e ha o ld ha e o b i and b ing i in. No , on he o he hand, A hen a able a I old o -- le ' a in he ea l da o g o hea and o he g ain , b mo e o he poin , i a e good fo oli e ee and fo g ape ine , o a e ill ee hen he A henian begin o e ploi all of hei land, no j he bo om land ha o k fo g ain, b al o he le de i able land and p od ced ine and oli e oil, ha a a o ce of ag ic l al eal h ha o ld pla an impo an pa in hei hi o . No , hei o n o abo hei pa a ome hing like hi . The , nlike he o he inhabi an of o he n G eece, acco ding o hei o , ne e e pe ienced a Do ian in a ion. No , he Do ian did come do n and o of bang a he doo of A ica, b he e e d i en b he A henian and ne e made hei a in o i . So, he A henian claimed ha he e e, in a ce ain en e, he p e of he p e G eek and he en o g ea leng h . One of hei o ie claim he e e, a he G eek o d goe a och hono , ha i , he e e p ang f om hei o n oil. In fac , he aid he e e in A ica befo e he c ea ion of he moon. G e o don' ha e o belie e ha , b on he o he hand, i ' hei pic e; e e e al a he e, he o iginal indigeno people. Thei adi ion, and hi one i el igh , i ha a an ea l ime in hei hi o , A ica became a ef ge fo people e caping ha he o ld ha e ega ded a he Do ian in a ion. The e' no do b ha people f om he Peloponne af e he fall of he B on e Age ci ili a ion did a lo of nning a a and ome of hem an o A ica and e e g ee ed and e led do n he e pe manen l . Some of he mo impo an and mo a i oc a ic A henian aced hei ance no o he A henian ho e e he e befo e he moon a c ea ed, b o people ho had come in hi fligh ome ime af e he end of he B on e Age. I i a adi ion no of p od cing conflic b of p od cing ha mon . The e e ile , e a e old, e e b o gh in o he A henian people and li ed among hem a A henian , no pli , no di i ion. Simila l , he e i no hing like he helo cla in A hen . The e a e no e f , he e i no pp e ed pop la ion ai ing o ge a hei le , o ha he e' a kind of a hi o ical good fo ne, hich a A hen i going o be i ho in e nal ife. I don' mean o all b o a g ea deg ee compa ed o he o he G eek a e . No , one impo an e ample of ha happen in A hen ha doe n' happen in o he a e i hi . The e' a adi ion in A hen of an e en called s noikismos; i ' on he i e o o can look i p, hich mean nifica ion. I eall , if o ake he o d apa , i mean he b inging of ho ehold oge he . The e i no e of local ebellion again he majo ci , no need o go o a . No , he e e e ob io l a back he e in he ea l da of he polis hen he ci of A hen became he dominan ci , b e kno o li le of hem, i ' a ho gh he memo ha been en i el fo go en and he pic e ha i pain ed i one of e e bod o of happil li ing oge he , no conflic . Compa e ha o Spa a he e i ' ob io Spa a gained con ol of he Peloponne h o gh a and ha man of he people he e e e e nhapp i h hem, no o men ion he Helo . B in neighbo ing Boeo ia, he chief ci of Thebe , adi ionall a a a ing o bd e he o he majo ci ie of Boeo ia, in o de o make hem el e he bo and he ne e e e f ll cce f l in hi . So, Boeo ia i o n, o ome deg ee, b hi in e nal conflic , hich make i ha de fo Thebe o achie e he kind of po e in i o n home e i o ha he A henian a e able o achie e. C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ /transcript10.html 8/13 2/7/12 transcript10.html Le ' ake a look a he ea lie ocie of A hen a fi e come o kno i . One hing abo hi i ha he o of en come o h o gh people like A i o le ho liked o make hing nea e and p hem nicel oge he , a he han o lea e li le b mp o an hing like ha . The ocie e' e alking abo , hi ea lie ocie , i a i oc a ic and emembe i ' impo an o no ice he diffe ence be een a i oc a ic and oliga chic. A i oc a ic implie mean led b he be , and be in ha ime mean impl be b bi h. I mean be b bi h and ha mean if o ' e going o be in he ling g o p, in a dominan , an a i oc a -- he onl a o ge he e i if o fa he a an a i oc a . Doe n' ma e ho ich o a e, doe n' ma e ha a magnificen a io o a e, all ha ma e i bi h and ha i diffe en f om oliga ch hich gi e le o a fe b ha all mean , I o ld a j abo e e ca e, ha eal h pla a ole ha o can be one of he fe in he ling g o p if o ' e ich eno gh. I don' mean ha he didn' ha e a i oc a i hin an oliga ch , I'm e ha he did, i ' ha ha a no he c i ical elemen . No , al o in he A henian a i oc ac , o can imagine ha mo a i oc a a e ich b ome of hem a e no , and ha ' he di inc ion ha ma e and e ill come back o ha poin a e ee A hen mo e o of he a i oc a ic condi ion and in o one ha i mo e ba ed on eal h, han i i me el on bi h. Well, e a e old ha in he ea lie ime , A hen a di ided p; he people of A hen e e di ided p in o fo ibe j a e e all he o he Ionian ci ie and he A henian of co e e e Ionian ; hi i a poin o h making, beca e mo Ionian li ed on he coa of A ia Mino o on he I land of he Aegean and he A henian e e p e m ch--I'm e agge a ing b mo l he onl Ionian on he mainland. The o of e e an in e e ing middling g o p be een he Do ian of he Peloponne and he G eek of o he pe el e he e, and he A henian o of ood be een he mainland he e he e i ed, he e he e e, and he i land and ac o he ea . Each one of he e fo adi ional ibe con ained, acco ding o hi adi ion, h ee bdi i ion ha e e called ph a e . An ea a o an la e ph a e i b o he hood. No ice i ' again abo famil and bi h. Yo a e in ph a e ; o ' e in ha ph a e , beca e o i o fa he and o inhe i i , and he e ph a e e e e impo an . I ho ld ha e men ioned ha he ibe had impo an eligio f nc ion ha al o he a m con i ed of fo egimen , one fo each ibe. So, he e ibe had g ea eali fo he Spa an . Yo en no onl o he eligio fe i al of he en i e a e, b o en o ho e onl fo o fello ibe men, hich ga e o a en e of belonging in ha ibe, and I hink ha ' impo an . The ph a e e e malle e ion of he ame hing; ph a e had eligio i e of hei o n, and in fac , he ph a e appea o ha e been he ni ha eall ma e ed in e m of he place he e o o of e abli hed o belonging. I mean, if omebod came along o an A henian in he e en h cen and aid, o a o ' e an A henian, ho do I kno o ' e an A henian? Well, af e o go h o gh a ing, ell o can a k m f iend , m neighbo . Yeah ha do he kno ? Yo a , ell ho o ld o do i ? Well, I g e come do n o a mee ing of m ph a e , he ill ha e a eco d of m being a membe of ha ph a e and ha make me an A henian. So ha ' he impo ance, in a a , one pa of he impo ance of he ph a e . No , he ph a e , beca e i a e abli hed b bi h and adi ion, a an a i oc a ic onghold. E e he e o can imagine, ibe, ph a e , and o on, ome a i oc a ic famil o familie o ld ha e had a leading ole b adi ion. The G eek eligion did ha e p ie , b i didn' ha e a epa a e p ie l cla and d ing he a i oc a ic pe iod, and I o ld a p obabl h o gho i hi o , A henian eligion had he p ie hood , he chief eligio place in he a e e e held b a i oc a , hich in a p imi i e ocie in i elf, gi e hem emendo p e ige and a lo of clo . P obabl , al ho gh I'm no e e ha e ha d e idence on hi , p obabl he ph a e fo gh ide b /transcript10.html ide in he 9/13 C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ 2/7/12 transcript10.html ; A , , , A A . W ' ' .I' .M .Y , R T , .I , .T ' , , , .T N ,A , ' , .I A , .O .N .I , a chon, a chon S , .W , ' a chon . A a chon ba ile . H , , I , , , , , .A , /transcript10.html .A ' e pa id , poli , , .I A ' , , , A , A , poli , A .T , , , , ; ' , , E . , .T , , ' ' .B , poli , , ' 683 B.C. T , a chon . I a chon G , .I , . , A ' , , .Y .I E I' H , , .I ' ' , ;M . , , W a chon, polema ch, a chon, , , , .S a chon , a chon , I , K a chon, a chon , C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ 10/13 2/7/12 transcript10.html .S , . E a chon -, A a chon , .N , , . A -, A .T A , he mo he e , .T I ' , .T , ' , ; , , ' .I , , , a eopag , a chon. a eopag , , Y , I , a chon . T a chon . T ; .T ' , -, , .T , .Y ?Y G .D ' I G Y ' .A , ' , ' T a eopag , ' a chon . T , , I , .T A , , .W .W O , , .W , A E pa idae, '.B ' /transcript10.html a eopagi e , .W , ' .S poli , , - A A ' , , , . , ' , A A , , G C .A , .T , ' .I , hippei , .H 11/13 C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ 2/7/12 transcript10.html e pen i e. So, he e a e ich people no he ' e al a been a i oc a , b ha nece a il a i oc a . ho a e he e ca al men. Well, he ' e had ca al in he pa , e ill ee in he f e i ha men ho a e hippeis ho a e no A he bo om of he ba el e hea abo people called thetes. The ' e al a been a o nd, he a e he poo ; he don' o n land. The li e a he me c of chance; he o k fo o he people. The do an hing he can o a ali e. B no come he ne hing, people called zeugitai. Wha doe i mean? I mean oke fello . No , he e a e o en e of he o k oke ha eem o be in ol ed in hi . Yo co ld a ha , and hi i one a ha make en e, he e e e men ho e e fficien l ell off ha he co ld o n a eam of o en, o o en, ho e e oked oge he o p ll he plo . Tha o ld make hem e pec abl ell off fa me . We a e alking abo people of he hoplite cla . Ano he heo i ha he e e indeed named ha , beca e he e e hoplites, beca e he lined p in he phalanx and he e e oked oge he , o o peak, b hei hield o ching one ano he . I ha dl ma e hich of he o ie o p efe o he he o choo e bo h; e' e alking abo he ame people and ha ell he impo an fac , ha hi ne cla of independen famil fa me ha a i ed in A hen , and a in o he a e i no a i fied i h hi po i ion in he a e, a hi o n impo ance o he a e become g ea e and g ea e . We ill come back o hi o hen e alk abo Solon, b hink abo he e change a happening, a he ne change ha I an o ell o abo occ . A change ha didn' happen, b if i had, i o ld ha e changed he en i e co e of e en . Acco ding o adi ion in he ea 632, an A henian nobleman ho had become famo beca e of hi ic o in an a hle ic con e and ho had ma ied he da gh e of a e eal h and po e f l an in Mega a, igh ne doo o A ica. So, hi g a a o ng big ho of e ao dina cha ac e named, C lon, a emp ed a coup d' tat ing o e abli h a ann in A hen , j a hi fa he -in-la had e abli hed one in Mega a. Hi fa he in-la ' name a Theagene . Well, a he o goe , he ied hi be o gain con ol of he ci . Wha did o do in A hen in he ea l da , if o an ed o ake con ol of he ci , i o ake an a med fo ce p on o he Ac opoli , ei e he Ac opoli , make i o fo e , and p oclaim o elf bo and ee if o can make i ick. Well, he co ldn' , he a e i ed b eno gh of hi opponen ha he a defea ed. The leade of he e i ance a he famil kno n a he Alcmaeonidae. We ill hea a lo abo hem in hi co e. B he en p he e, locked p C lon and hi ppo e in he Ac opoli , in a emple. Yo co ldn' go in o he emple fo he p po e of killing omebod , ha o ld be ac ilegio and o he e e a a and ill. S ill if o ' e in ide ha emple and ing o a oid being killed, o ill need food and d ink, and mo impo an d ink. So, ho co ld he manage i ? Well, he ook a co d, ied i o he emple, held on o he co d, and en do n o he ell and go hei a e claiming ha he e e j a ac o anc a he had been befo e, and fo a hile i o ked. B he Alcmaeonidae aid, balone . The c he co d and killed he C lonian . Tha p an end o he C lonian con pi ac b i b o gh ome hing o Alcmaeonidae a ell, a c e. The Alcmaeonid e e decla ed acc ed and d i en f om he ci . Well, ha ' fo he ime being, la e on e ill hea he ' e back again and he ' e e impo an . B he c e con in e o be a ached o he famil , and a e ge o he la end of he la hi d of he fif h cen and he Peloponne ian Wa i abo o b eak o , he enemie of Pe icle ill p ll o he c e of he Alcmaeonidae o e again him, beca e hi mo he a of Alcmaeonid famil . Fo he momen , ha e' e alking abo he e I hink ho gh, i he e' he fi /transcript10.html ign ha e ee of o ble in 12/13 C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX10.974/ 2/7/12 transcript10.html pa adi e. Nice, calm, happ s noecisi ed A hen ha go o ble igh he e in Ri e Ci . I mean in A hen . Wh ? I hink e m imagine ha he e a e he kind of di con en ha e ha e been alking abo hich find he leade in he fo m of a man ho i an o anding fig e fo ome ea on, ho i illing o o e abli h a ann , and e a med fo ce o o achie e hei goal . Tha i fail , I hink, i an indica ion ha he ame fo ce ha en' eached he po e in A hen ha he had eached in Mega a, Co in h, Sic on, and place like ha , b i ' a a ning abo o ble ahead and I'll n o ho e o ble in he ne ho . 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