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S den : [ ] P , P A ' ' W , .A I , C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.150/ /transcript20.html P ofe o Donald Kagan: I ' .P , P .V , . P A , P , , .T I , .S , 11/13 2/7/12 transcript20.html ? S den : [ ] , .N , A , ; , --I .Y ? S den : [ ] --P , T , .B , , , -130 , T , .W I I ,I S den : [ ] I -, I' P P -- , P , P , C C , D , 12/13 P ofe o Donald Kagan: T ' ' .H A .S ,I , ' I ," A P ' , , ," I , -, ' ' .H .T .I , P ofe o Donald Kagan: O , , .T P S ,N .I I T P P P N , , , . H , W , ' , 5000 S , N ' , , A ' N P ' N S , , , .N N , , , ' . , , , , , S , , , .A ?Y ? P ' ,I . ' -S , , ' -A , , , , P ofe o Donald Kagan: N , , I .I C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.150/ /transcript20.html 2/7/12 transcript20.html other places on the peripher of the Peloponnesus and launching attacks from those places, but not sta ing to fight the Spartans at an great battle, just causing that to happen. If the had been able to do that for a stretch of time, then the hope that Cleon had that the helots might escape to these forts and ultimatel bring about an internal upheaval, which the Spartans panicked might happen, would have led the Spartans to offer peace, and in fact the do. The Spartans offer peace. You could argue that if the Athenians had simpl accepted the Spartan peace offer in 425 the war would have been over and the Athenian Empire would have been intact just the wa Pericles wanted it. So, not onl could the have done it--and the would have done it, if the had accepted it. The wouldn't accept victor ou could argue, as man a scholar does. The onl other point I want to make is after that didn't happen, and finall a peace was drawn up and signed and in effect in 421, which is another evidence that the could achieve what the wanted b the techniques that were put forward, but after that happened that peace broke down and now the Athenians found themselves part of a new alliance of states, Athenians with three Peloponnesian democracies who produce a big land battle in the Peloponnesus and the Athenians come--I mean, the enemies of Sparta come that close to defeating the Spartan arm in the Peloponnesus. Had the done that, the would have finished Sparta off as a dominant power of the Greeks. So the answer is, the actuall had it in their hands a couple of times and on another time the missed b about an inch. Yeah the could have won that wa . I think we're out of time. Let me wish ou all a ver happ holida . B e-b e. [end of transcript] back to top C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.150/ /transcript20.html 13/13 ...
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This note was uploaded on 02/07/2012 for the course ECON 159 taught by Professor Benjaminpolak during the Fall '08 term at Yale.

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