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Unformatted text preview: 2/7/12 transcript21.html Introduction to Ancient Greek Histor : Lec N 27, 2007<< , !I ' .O 431. T .R ,I W , .I P , .H G T , P L S ' .S , , A , P A .S , S T S ' S .S , S , , S C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ /transcript21.html e 21 T an c ip P W . P ofe o Donald Kagan: W W , - , .W , , S G P , W , G . S S I , ' . S , , X A , ' .T S , . .T , .I , P . S S , , S , S , , . , P W , , , , P , , P .T P , , , , I , ' .T .I -P S , .L .S , L , , 1/13 2/7/12 transcript21.html c e ai eS a a h d ha e efe ed ha . B fc e he e a he he he e ha e ihi g e ha ch ice a c d be di ided c f he e i e G ee di i I a a d Sici , e ce he he a d e S a a did a c He e a d he a e be d, A he ia ee f he a . ibii ha he S a a c d e hi e -f d e,a dI e hi g , a d a be e i i ie ide he Pe e a d i . A he e e e, he S a a had i i hei e c e he ea . I ea , I' ea i g , a e a a d , e e G ee h ie ge i ed i he ai hea e i he Aegea . 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Re e be he A he ia had defea ed he Pe ia --fi f a , he G ee had d e ha bac i 480, 479 b e e ,e e i ce he he A he ia had e ea ed defea ed he Pe ia , e a d e agai . S , he e e ' a hi g i e he ca hi g he had bee a he begi i g f he ce . B i a ca e, 'd ha e a e ha a d a aS a a d ha e bee de e ed b ha ec , a d agai b he ec f ha i g ha e a f ee , beca e he e a a e hi hi d ic i h ha i g a f ee ha bega a ach he e f he A he ia f ee he i had bee g. We , ha did ha ea ? I ea ig he adi i a S a a ii a ad a age--h i e die figh i g i fa ba e , b a e a d e e a a e e. I d ' ha e he i e g i a de aied acc fh a a a fa e a ca ied i he G ee d, b i ' ea f ge ha i addi i he e f h he e e e 170 i each i e e, h e e he e gi e i a e e, he ade he hi g e, a d ffice a d a a ea e a i e , h c d be a ded f beha i g i e h i e a d. 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L .W P P , ' I K ' A , A --L .T .B " ' " ' .I G T , 371 T A .A P , W .I B A , /transcript21.html , , S S .N , ' , S 3/13 C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ 2/7/12 transcript21.html .S , W P , W , ;L motha ; , S , . B S .W , , , L W E A , , decarchies, S harmost. I A ,L A 1,000 .S , T A G , A , L ; L A . , S /transcript21.html . , 404 L , " ' .T S S , .B , , S , , , . M , .I , , , P , . decarchs , G , , ; S A , , , .T .T S A E , A , , , S , , , , " L .H -S S , .H S , , .T , , harmosts, . S E P A E , P , ; G S .I , , harmosts S .T .I 4/13 .R E .O , L .I ' A S C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ 2/7/12 transcript21.html f om all he ancien i e ha he Spa an e e no ea people in hei dealing i h o he G eek . E e hing in hei adi ion made hem feel pe io o o he G eek and he didn' mind ac ing in ha a . Yo emembe he o ie of ho i a ha he A henian Empi e a fo nded, o a he ha Delian Leag e-- he Spa an had o aliena ed all he G eek in ha egion b he a he ea ed hem ha he e e glad o end he Spa an a a and eplace hem b he A henian , ho did no ea hem ha a , a lea he didn' do i fo ome ea befo e he de eloped in o an empi e. So hi a ano he p oblem, Spa an e e no good a hi job, b a he beginning ha a deci i e a L ande . He a a he heigh of hi po e and infl ence, and I g e i ' fai o a , he eached heigh ha no mo al e e had eached in he G eek o ld. The oliga ch hom he had e o ed o po e in Samo lo ed him o m ch, and e e o g a ef l fo ha he had done, ha he held eligio ce emonie on he i land and li e all o hipped L ande , a a god. Thi i he fi ime in G eek hi o ha an bod had ecei ed ch ea men . On he one hand, hi ele a ed hi infl ence and po e , e e bod onde ed a him and o on. On he o he hand, i p e en ed a p oblem, beca e o can imagine ho ha en do n among he a i oc a of Spa a, and mo pa ic la l i h he King of Spa a, o ee ha hi --I e a echnical e m no a ee c e o d, hi ba a d a no being o hipped a a god, and of co e ha kind of eminence a nhea d of fo a nonking in he Spa an o ld. So, ha had all kind of o ble do n he oad. He a a ambi io a he co ld be, and i a a ob io a i co ld be. So, he e a jealo and e en men and fea a Spa a ha ome hing bad a going o happen o he Spa an a of life, o he Spa an con i ion, and Pa ania and hi adionali bided hei ime fo he oppo ni o p a pike in o hi de elopmen . The e e e o he hing ha e e flo ing f om ha I' e al ead de c ibed ha e e h ea ening he adi ional cha ac e of Spa an life. Thi mone , of co e, allo ed fo co p ion. No , people ho had mone co ld b people' ppo , co ld b people' help in hei o n endea o fo infl ence and po e in Spa a. One of he hing ha e hea abo ha mo chola o ld like o place in hi pe iod, and i eem ea onable o me, a a ne la abo inhe i ance; ha ' he La of Epi ade . He i he man ho p opo ed i . I ed o be ha inhe i ance a oma icall en in a ce ain di ec ion, nobod had an choice. Yo co ldn' make o a ill and lea e i o an bod o liked. I en h o gh he famil acco ding o a ce ain pa e n. The La of Epi ade changed ha . Yo kno co ld i e a ill and elec o cce o ho e e o i hed, o inhe i o . Tha mean ha he e e e a o co ld o k a o nd ha o a o b omebod igh hile o e e ill ali e. If o o e omebod in o o ill, o e e in effec gi ing him mone af e o died. So, mean hile he co ld e e o and be o poli ical ppo e . Tha a happening and people ho had been ai ed a Spa an and e pec ed o inhe i hei fa he ' p ope o ld ome ime find ha he had been c o and no he e e Spa ia e b bi h, b he lacked he nece a eal h, nece a land o p o ide fo hei meal a he common me and o he co ld no longe be Spa ia e in he f ll en e. A e m a di co e ed fo hem, he e e called h pomeiones, hich mean infe io and ome of he g ho o e o po e la e in he Peloponne ian Wa a gene al , beca e he e e j good a i , came f om ome ch cla . So, o ha e a a ie of Spa an ho a e impo an , ho a e no helo , ho a e no people o co ld j do ha o an o. The pla a ignifican ole in ocie b he don' ha e he po i ion of hono , he po i ion of belonging ha a nece a and he e e e di p i e and o bling de elopmen in he Spa an a e. We ge a cl e abo hi ; in 398. We hea abo he planning of a e ol ion in he ci . A man b he name of C nadon, ho a one of he e h pomeiones, a planning o ha e an p i ing in hich he o ld kill lo of Spa an C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ /transcript21.html 5/13 2/7/12 transcript21.html .W , C .B .H C S , ' , h pomeiones, neodamodes, , 4,000 ?W , .S , I' A .A , I' A ' T A P , ?T , S , S A ' . ' , , A L , , , G P A , X , , , A 404. P A S E , , /transcript21.html , C ?W , 4,000. H perioikoi, . , S S .H , S S S ?H S , , S ,M T , .I M , , G , A A , A , .T . A T .A , .W , , S .W , A .T .I , L A .A C .H S A , 404 , .J .I , .H . , , , , -.T --I , B ' ' , .M , I ' .T ,C , ' A . , 6/13 C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ 2/7/12 transcript21.html A -H , G , ' ' ' S , ' .H , .S , -, .A . T S U , S ' , ,I S C ' , .O S , , N , , , .S ,L C , C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ I --L -, , , .Y ' , .I , ' ' , , . G ' , , , ' , , G , G , , I , ' .N , ?L ' , ' , W W -, .W F .T , , E , U , .S , ' . , S .S , A , , A , S , , , .T , .I S , , , .I , , -- , .S , C ; I' ; I T A A .T .I . -- 404, 100 , T , A .H 7/13 ' , , , T /transcript21.html 2/7/12 transcript21.html 400 T , I T , .I A 21,000, ; ; " S T T , , .S , , , . T T , , , ' ; , .T , .S , T T -Y , , ? T gero sia. U .O S A ' ; ,S ' . /transcript21.html 411 T , A , , , ,I , , I ' . ' , , 5,000, , ' 5,000, 9,000 .W , A , ," I ,T , , , . ' .I ' , .T C 400, ' ' .S , A G .A , S , A .M 404 T T , 400 A .B A , , , M , 403, .T .I , , G , 500-- T , , -.I , 3,000 A .T .A ?P I A A -3,000. W , .A ' T , , T .W , ' , S P , , K , . 21,000 , K , 8/13 C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ 2/7/12 transcript21.html W ,T I , ' .T , , ?H , , ' .H , , T , . 400, I' , O , I ' A , T , I -S A W C .T A T .I T T , , ?T , , . , , A , T T .W , .A T . , .S , , , -T C S .T A , .S , .T , S , , T .T -- ' T P , S , , W .H .H -70 P , . .T F R .N , , F F , /transcript21.html , , T , , ,I , T , S . S ' , , ,M I , , ' . T , , A .T T , A A , , B A , A A , I' J A A 1940 , .O .O L G , , D G F N T , , 9/13 C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ 2/7/12 transcript21.html and o h o he Ge man o , e abli hed he f ee F ench fo ce . I ' impo an o eali e ha af e he a a o e , i ' ama ing ho la ge ha f ee F ench fo ce had g o n in people' mind . In eali , i a a handf l of people. Tha ' he a i al a i and ha ' he a i a in A hen a ell. I a a e if ing p o pec o ackle hi egime, hich looked like i a nbea able. Remembe , he had been p in place b he Spa an . The Spa an led he o ld. Wha co ld an bod e pec o change ha i a ion? J a he Na i looked like he e e in b ine fo he ho and ea ha Hi le had claimed he a going o ha e. So, i didn' look like o e e a e co ageo man if o joined De Ga lle. Ho man of o ha e een Casablanca? Oka , a lea o ' e een one mo ie in o life; ha ' g ea . B o emembe , ha a e Cla de Raine and Boge doing a he end of he a hen he a , Lo ie I hink hi i he beginning of a bea if l f iend hip. When he a ha he ' e going o B a a ille o join he f ee F ench. Well g ea , b ha did people hink abo De Ga llel? The ho gh he a a goddamn fool, he e a no chance, hi a idioc , en ible men-- ha a e he ing o do? The ied o in a m ch a he co ld in collabo a ing i h he Ge man j o make hei -- he fa e of he F enchman le ha d and o help F ance in he f e in ha a . Tha ' he a i a i h mo A henian ; mo F enchman and mo A henian didn' do ei he of ho e hing . The kep hei head do n and ied o li e hei li e a be he co ld. I hink ha o need o nde and i happening and hi all p ha Th a b l and An , and hei f iend did in a e pecial kind of a ligh . The e e e e ao dina il b a e, e ao dina il a h, and e ao dina il op imi ic people, and a i happened in hi ca e, i o ked fo hem ama ingl . The begin o ga he fo ce ha a e helping hem. Ano he in e e ing poin i ha i ' ema kable ho fe of he people i h Th a b l ee ac all A henian ci i en . A p i ing n mbe of hem e e pe manen e iden alien , metics, ho, of co e, e e g ea a ge fo he Thi , beca e he e e picall ell off and had mone , and of co e he had no igh and no po e , o man of hem, mo of he me ics e e ce ainl on he democ a ic ide of hi a g men ; man of hem en o figh . O he , like L ia he o a o , ed hi mone o hi e me cena oldie o figh fo he Th a b l democ a a ell. Well, he fi e came in he mon h of Jan a . The e e e he e e en g o o p in he fo e on Ph le. B no he Thi e e o ied eno gh abo hi na cen a m o end an a m of hei o n, m ch bigge , o o ge hem and i ' a hi poin ha I'm al a eminded, again, alk abo analogie of he e en of G ea B i ain in he i een h-cen England, I ho ld a eall , hen he Spani h A mada a heading fo England ing o gain con ol of he i land fo he Pope and Ca holici m and one hing and ano he . And ha happened a ha na e, if o ill, o a he B i i h ho gh of i , ma be God in e ened a he A mada a coming o a g ea ind came p and i ble he hip o of hei pa h and ecked man of hem. And eall he B i i h-- he Engli h flee didn' do an he e nea a m ch damage o he Spani h flee a did he ind . So, f om ha da fo a d he e p ang p he legend in England of he P o e an Wind, hich had come along o a e he ne Engli h fai h again he fo ce of he Pope. Well, if he can in en a P o e an Wind I hink i ' oka fo me o peak abo he democ a ic no ha fell on Ph le ha en -- ha ' j ha happened. A big no o m came p, and o hen he fo ce of he Thi came af e Th a b l , he j co ldn' do i . The j co ldn' ge he e; he e e fo gh off and he had o e ea . And a he e ea ed he e en came do n af e hem and cha ed hem, and killed hem a he fled, and did a ce ain amo n of damage, and he ime, he pa age of ime a e impo an , beca e mo e and mo e A henian e e becoming ho ile o he egime ha he had fallen nde . And he , mo e and mo e of hem, al ho gh again, i ' ama ing ho fe ac al A henian joined Th a b l , b b hi ime The amene had come in o he pic e. C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ /transcript21.html 10/13 2/7/12 transcript21.html H C , T A T A P .T 3,000, T W , L , S L .W , , F S , , A A A .A A O , .T T A T , W .N , C , C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ , .T 1,500 A .W , .A , P , , ' , .W E .T T A T T . .C , L .S A , , P .S , P .H --. , P , .S A euth na , A , T S /transcript21.html C , ' , T , 3,000, S . , , S .H , S ?N , S T .I T K T . P , ' , , A .H S ' P , A ' P , , -- T , . --I A , . , E ' , , , .S , ?W , , A , , .B D , 11/13 2/7/12 transcript21.html A T A henian .S , P ' 401. I 400 A W . A R .O T .A .T E Con i , , A ion of he ; , , A --I poli eia, A G , , " T , F .T ' .I , I .I . S , A 401, T .Y C N A , R , T .T , A 180 A.D., P G .I , "T A , P P N , ' ' P ' ' : "H . I ' ." T ' A T ." T , : "I ,I ' , T B.C., , P I .T .I ,I A , .T , ." T .I' .W T , , .W , A poli , , T -A " ." T , , , , , .I , R ' -, , , .W A I' , .S , , , . , T A .H ' T G , . R ,I , I , P , L , , ," .H T P C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ /transcript21.html 12/13 2/7/12 transcript21.html never heard of him? I mean barel heard of him. I mean, the best answer I can give ou is there must have been lost histories, and we know there are of the period, and the must have given Thras bulus the kind of credit for his remarkable achievements that don't show up in Xenophon and Diodorus and the orators. But we at last, and ou have an obligation to future generations, must not let the name of Thras bulus lie in obscurit again, and just so that ou don't forget him, remember he is the onl Greek I know whose name fits a Yale fight song-Thras bulus, Thras bulus. [end of transcript] back to top C:/Users/JIMMIN~1/AppData/Local/Temp/Rar$EX06.909/ /transcript21.html 13/13 ...
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