2009-02-04_ChurchHistory

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Page 1 of 7 Church History David Steinmetz February 4, 2009 Luther: Justification by faith, and forgiveness of sins. What happens in the 16 th century is unprecedented. A huge group of Catholics decide that there are things that are wrong with the Catholic church, and they have persisted until today. It has redrawn national boundaries. It created refugee problems. It creates huge social and political issues. In the discussion itself… The way that Luther works this out, justification by faith alone. Coram Deo [[ A cloud] Arrow -------- Faith, Passive, Gratitude --------- Person -------- Love, active works from the Coram Hominibus ---- All the people. All the devils believe and it has NO SAVING effect. When Martha Pumpkin Eater or John Turtledove…. When they believe them, how does that save them? Christ: --- For Neighbor And --- In Neighbor Christ --- Church: Freedom and No Compulsion ------ State Order / Chaos Compulsion and sword If it’s based on the right set of believes than the professor will be more righteous and just on the basis of what we know, and more so than the newspaper seller on the street. There’s no Biblical basis for thinking that there is any intellectual basis for righteousness. Justice is always incomplete because there’s always more to know.
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Page 2 of 7 Barth, Part II.2 Luther talks at times about 2 kingdoms. He uses some language a little ambiguously. In talking about two kingdoms, he may be talking about two separate ideas. For example, he may be talking about the two realms we inhabit. God knows us in a way that we don’t even know ourselves. It’s a relationship that every human being has. It may be a good relationship or a bad relationship. But it’s not just neutral. Luther thinks you can’t just be an agnostic. Cicero suggests that everyone instinctively knows there is a God. You get a… why something and not nothing. Science tells us how something, but not why. We’ll get into this with Calvin who gives the classic discussion of this. No one thinks that you can say, I’m just neutral, it’s just ambiguous. I believe in god, but none of the ones I’ve heard of yet. In my mother’s womb you knew me. The notion that no human life is accidental, and no human being stands outside God’s realm, and will not be turned aside. There is a relationship to God, and there is a relationship to human beings. Corte mundi. Sing to your plants, talks to the plants, relationship with nature. We don’t start from the point of view of no relationship. The human predictament is that those who are committed to “not God” will stay there until God calls us back to the God act which only God can do. Our relationship to God is passive.
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