PHIL 225g Spring 2012 Outline lecture 4

PHIL 225g Spring 2012 Outline lecture 4 - PHIL 225g Spring...

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PHIL 225g Spring 2012 Lecture 4 outline--Symposium II Platonic/Socratic dialogues Socrates questions Agathon 199D ff.--elenchus characteristic philosophical method of Socrates question-answer or deFnition-counterexample, followed by emendation, followed by refutation . . . Stages: love is desire of something not nothing; love is for what is lacking or wanting (connection with desire); love is desire for beauty; therefore love lacks beauty, or is not beautiful; at 201C Agathon admits he doesn’t know what he was talking about in his speech; Socrates concludes with parallel argument, since love is desire for what’s good, it is not good itself Socrates recounts Diotima’s questioning of him (201D ff.) She ran him through same elenchus he has just put Agathon through, to the same conclusion She chides Socrates for concluding that love, if it is not beautiful, must be ugly; there is something in between beauty and ugliness She explicitly draws conclusion: love is not a god, because it is not beautiful and happy,
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