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5 Morality/Religion: 3 central assumptions why morality depends on religion, 1: Religious belief is needed to get us to do our duty/ without belief in God people stay from the path of virtue. More conscious than atheists or agnostics. Fear of God, desire for happy after life. Non believers don’t have the same fears. Being conscious doesn’t make people good. Religion can strengthen commitment but it has made people do horrible things. Religious principles need to be morally good in the first place. Religion may use fictitious beliefs to do good. Do right thing for wrong reasons. When effective it undermines moral character. 2: Morality must be created by someone, and God is by far the best candidate/ morality is a set of norms (standards) there must be someone to create them. Without god, humans make the moral law. Lack authority to do the work. Morality built upon our imperfections lacks credibility. God is perfect. To get moral requirements we need God to impose them. (every law requires a law maker, moral law requires a lawmaker, humans cannot make moral law: imperfect, cause humans cant God does, God is the author of moral law) leads to Divine command theory : an act is morally required just because it is commanded by God and immoral just cause God forbids it. Problems-god might not exist, or command us to do anything, pro-no worries about where morality comes from, con-if god created morality god did so arbitrarily, but god is good, cant choose wrong. Plato and Euthyphro: going to try his father for murder, Socrates undermines people, “explain justice, what is morality?”, “whatever god loves”, 1 st god loves right actions cause they are right, 2 nd right actions right cause God loves them, nothing right or wrong until god makes it so. Socrates believes 1-suppose no moral facts, god is confronted with right and wrong, God could decide rape and murder are right cause there is no reason to make them bad, nothing has made them bad. Problem-if god lacks reason for commands they are arbitrary. Euthyphro Argument: god has reasons to support his commands or lacks reasons, if he lacks reasons the his commands are arbitrary-renders him as imperfect-undermining his moral authority, if god has reasons then these reasons rather than the divine commands are what make acts right-refuting divine command theory, either god is imperfect or DCT is false, god is not imperfect, DCT false. God could have forbid us to be kind but that makes a mockery of morality and god as perfect- Divine Perfection Argument: if DCT is true, morally perfect god could have created a flawless morality that required us to rape and forbade us from kindness (true, if gods choices were fixed in advance then actions were already right-denies central idea of DCT), moral god could no issue such commands (moral code that required horrible acts and forbade good ones could not serve as a model for perfection), DCT false (if we reject dct we can say god bases commands on best reasons) The absence of god doesn’t mean absence of morality. 3
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