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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ORDER AND DANGEROUS DRUGS JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS JLFLORES VI-2 November 23, 2016 12:50 p.m. 4 SEN. POE. ‘Di ba, sinabi nila nagpaputok ang mayor pero sabi ninyo hindi kayo ang gumagawa ng test na iyon. Pero nagawa rin ba ninyo? Nagpaputok ba talaga ng baril? Mayroon bang residue? MR. LARA. To my knowledge, Your Honor, a paraffin test was done on—both on the mayor and Mr. Raul Yap, Your Honor. SEN. POE. At mayroon—positive, to your knowledge? MR. LARA. Your Honor, may I refer the question to the chief of the Regional Crime Laboratory Office 8, Your Honor? SEN. POE. Yes. Very quickly, please. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). That was already answered in the previous hearing. They said it was positive but it’s not conclusive. Is that correct? SEN. POE. Okay. So, you did not conduct—Inspector Lara, in your particular investigation, you did not do that paraffin test, right? MR. LARA. No, Your Honor. That is not part of my duty, Your Honor. SEN. POE. Okay. Thank you. Sa inyo po, Mr. Espinosa, palagi po ninyong nababanggit itong si Victor Espina. Hindi ako nagka—hindi ito pulis, ano? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Hindi po. SEN. POE. Ano nga iyong koneksyon niya bakit nga siya malakas? Paano siya nagiging liaison mo? Pakilinaw lang. 130
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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ORDER AND DANGEROUS DRUGS JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS JLFLORES VI-2 November 23, 2016 12:50 p.m. 5 MR. K. ESPINOSA. Siya po ay—contractor iyan siya, ma’am, tapos nakilala ko siya na maraming mga kaibigang mga PNP. Iyon, kaya— SEN. POE. Bakit siya maraming kaibigan na PNP? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Bayaw man siya ni General Leonardo Espina. Dating chief, PNP, ma’am. SEN. POE. O, sige. So, ngayon na binabanggit natin ang pangalan ng isang tao na katulad ni General Espina, pakilinaw lang, kayo, walang direktang koneksyon kay General Espina? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Wala po, ma’am. SEN. POE. Wala ka ring kinalaman na direktang koneksyon nitong si Victor na nire-report kay General Espina o hindi mo alam iyon? Iyong totoo po. MR. K. ESPINOSA. Pwede pakiulit, ma’am? SEN. POE. Pasensiya na, hindi—baka hindi malinaw. Kayo, wala kayong direktang kaugnayan kay chief, PNP—former chief, PNP, General Espina. Pero sigurado rin ba kayo na wala rin namang kinalaman si General Espina sa mga pinaggagawa ni Victor Espina? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Hindi ko po iyan alam, ma’am. SEN. POE. Pero wala namang pinapaabot na kuwento sa iyo si Victor? 131
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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ORDER AND DANGEROUS DRUGS JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS JLFLORES VI-2 November 23, 2016 12:50 p.m. 6 MR. K. ESPINOSA. Wala naman, ma’am. SEN. POE. Okay. Nasaan ngayon si Victor Espina? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Nasa Ormoc iyan, ma’am, ngayon, sa nalalaman ko lang. SEN. POE. At malaya naman siya doon, ano? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Malaya. SEN. POE. Sige. That’s all, Mr. Chair. Thank you so much for the opportunity.
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