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MS. VILLARINO. Yes, Your Honor. 308
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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ORDER AND DANGEROUS DRUGS JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS Jmbaisa XIII-3 November 23, 2016 4:40 p.m. 3 THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). So hindi realistic iyong sinasabi ninyo. Yes. MS. VILLARINO. Yes, Your Honor. The mayor was supposed to execute an affidavit. He said he wanted his lawyer to be there. When he told me that he was assisted—this was on the first affidavit, Your Honor. When the mayor insisted that he wanted to be assisted by a lawyer, he was given somebody from the Public Attorney’s Office. Now, he told me— THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). By whom? MS. VILLARINO. I don’t know, Your Honor. This was just the story of the mayor because he was telling me. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). Well, this is all practically water under the bridge. We all know that he executed an affidavit without the assistance of counsel. MS. VILLARINO. Yes, Your Honor. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). So we are beating a dead horse here. Let me just ask a few questions, if I may, because I have not had my turn although I co-chair. Number one, Kerwin, ikaw ba nagbigay ka ng pera kay Espenido kahit na kailan? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Hindi ako nagbibigay ng pera ni Sir Jovie Espenido. 309
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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ORDER AND DANGEROUS DRUGS JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS Jmbaisa XIII-3 November 23, 2016 4:40 p.m. 4 THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). Pero lahat halos ng makausap mo, binibigyan mo dahil, siyempre, may network ka, hindi ba, aalagaan mo iyong mga pulis, aalagaan mo iyong mga general, aalagaan mo iyong tinyente, aalagaan mo iyong kapitan. Bakit hindi ka makapagbigay kay Espenido? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Dahil po sa relasyon naming dalawa noong— alitan naming dalawa. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). Ang alitan ninyo ay dahil hinuli ka niya dahil nakasama ka ng mga Larrazabal o ng mga Locsin. Is that correct? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Yes. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). Iyan ang sinabi mo sa affidavit mo, hindi ba? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Oo. Opo. May “opo,” Your Honor. Pasensya na po, Bisaya. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). Naiintindihan ko. Hindi ako na-offend, Bisaya ka. Parang kausap natin si Manny Pacquiao. MR. K. ESPINOSA. Oo, Your Honor. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). Sanay kami kay Manny Pacquiao. So ang sinasabi natin dito ay hindi ka nakakapagbigay kay Espenido dahil kaaway mo? MR. K. ESPINOSA. Opo, Your Honor. 310
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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ORDER AND DANGEROUS DRUGS JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS Jmbaisa XIII-3 November 23, 2016 4:40 p.m. 5 THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. GORDON). Siyempre, nasa negosyo ka, kung bibigyan mo iyan, mababawasan ang kaaway mo, makakapag- operate ka, kung negosyante kang tunay, lalo na nandoon iyon, aaligid-aligid. O hindi ka nakapagbigay sa kanya because alam mo kaaway mo siya, hindi rin naman niya tatanggapin. Ang sinasabi niya rito, ang pinapalabas niya, madami na siyang pinaglipatan, tila biktima siya palagi. Kapag may eleksyon, doon siya itatapon, makakaaway niya iyong pulitiko, ililipat siya sa kabila, ililipat siya sa Mindanao, ililipat siya sa Albuera, ililipat siya sa kung saan- saan. Tama ba iyon?
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