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THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. LACSON). Sinu-sino iyong mga dating commander na hindi nagbigay sa inyo ng chance o umaawat sa inyo na mag-operate against Kerwin at that time? MR. MATIRA. Ang ginawa po kasi sa akin— THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. LACSON). Sinu-sino iyong mga commanders na pumipigil sa inyo? Kasi sabi mo, gigil na gigil kayo pero pinipigilan kayong mag-operate against Kerwin Espinosa. Sino iyong mga commanders na iyon? MR. MATIRA. Ang pinalabas po dati— THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. LACSON). Sagutin mo iyong tanong ko. Sino iyong mga commanders na sinasabi mo pumipigil sa inyo? MR. MATIRA. Si General Dolina po, Your Honor. Sila General Loot po. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. LACSON). Bakit ayaw ninyong sagutin kanina? MR. MATIRA. Kaya po pinaikut-ikot nila ako ng tatlong probinsiya ng Samar. Kung binigyan lang po kami ng chance para opereytin (operate) iyan, Your Honor, hindi na sana aabot tayo dito. 286
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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ORDER AND DANGEROUS DRUGS JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS MPMENDOZA X-3 November 23, 2016 4:10 p.m. 3 THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. LACSON). Bakit kayo pinipigil, sa palagay mo? MR. MATIRA. Iyon po ang hindi ko alam. Mahirap po mag- speculate, Your Honor. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. LACSON). Para kang hindi pulis. Si Chief Inspector Espenido, ano iyong explanation mo kung bakit nagkaganun-ganon iyong—nagkaloko-loko iyong affidavits? Sige. MR. ESPENIDO. Good afternoon, Your Honors. First, I would like to ask an apology sa chief, PNP, ko sa narinig niya, parang nawalan ng tiwala si Sir Bato. But I would not like to convince anybody, Your Honors, kung sino si Espenido. But first, masasabi ko lang, Your Honors, sa nangyari sa Albuera at saka sa posisyon ko bilang isang pulis—1999, 2000, nakapag-file ako ng kaso ng 14 na pulis, dalawang colonel, protection ng drugs. Nag-file ako, sir, sa Ombudsman at saka sa DOJ Prosecutor’s Office. Fourteen na mga pulis, pang-14 iyong isang CIDG, noong matalo si President Erap. Kasi at that time, iyong mostly na pulis— THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. LACSON). Hindi natalo si President Erap. MR. ESPENIDO. Pinalitan, Your Honor. Sorry. THE CHAIRMAN (SEN. LACSON). Pinalitan. MR. ESPENIDO. At that time, Your Honors, iyong mga pulis na- involve na pinaylan (file) ko ng kaso na dalawang colonel, may hepe, 287
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COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC ORDER AND DANGEROUS DRUGS JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS MPMENDOZA X-3 November 23, 2016 4:10 p.m. 4 CP(?) director ko, mostly sa kanila is tao ni Mayor Codilla—Dodong Codilla, iyong namatay. Sinabihan ako na Locsin(?)—noong pinalitan si President Erap, biglang nawala iyong kaso, Your Honor, kasi iyong isang witness namin namatay so lahat na-dismiss iyong kaso. Ngayon, naulit na naman, Your Honor, nawala na ako sa ere; na- transfer ako noon sa iba-iba na lang region. Kasi iyong mga pulis na na-file-an ko ng kaso na 14, instead na na-transfer sila sa Cordillera, nabalik sila noong napalitan na si Erap.
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