UNREVISED HANSARD JOINT SITTING TUESDAY 25 JUNE 2019 Page 123 I am infuriated

Unrevised hansard joint sitting tuesday 25 june 2019

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UNREVISED HANSARD JOINT SITTING TUESDAY, 25 JUNE 2019 Page: 123 I am infuriated by your tone-deaf attitude to thousands of lesbian women who are subjected to corrective rape and who face their tormentors in the streets because our criminal justice system cannot protect those who sex differently. Mr President, your government is responsible for many, and the most heinous of crimes. You jailed Kanya Cekeshe; you jailed Bonginkosi Khanyile and are complicit in the brutal murders of Benjamin Phehla and Bongani Madonsela just because they asked for the free education that you promised them when they were still toddlers in 1994. [Applause.] You have over a million students across all universities but you can only accommodate under 130 000 students. Where must the rest stay? [Interjections.] Mr B A RADEBE: Deputy Speaker, on a point of order. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon member? Hon member, hold on. Ms N N CHIRWA: Without any intention to build universities ...
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UNREVISED HANSARD JOINT SITTING TUESDAY, 25 JUNE 2019 Page: 124 The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon member? Hon Chirwa, when you are spoken to you stop speaking. Yes, hon member? Why are you rising? Press the button there. Mr B A RADEBE: Deputy Speaker, the speaker at the podium said the President is complicit in murder. I think that is unparliamentary. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes, it’s sustained. It is correct. Hon member, withdraw that statement. Hon member, withdraw the statement. You listen to the presiding officer. Mr N F SHIVAMBU: On a point of order, Deputy Speaker: She never said that. She said that your government is complicit in murder. There is a court ruling about ... affirming that saying here in the Joint Sitting ... The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon member? No. Hon Shivambu?
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UNREVISED HANSARD JOINT SITTING TUESDAY, 25 JUNE 2019 Page: 125 Mr N F SHIVAMBU: ... because when the commander in chief said that the ANC government killed ... [Inaudible.] ... that was affirmed by court. That is permissible, Deputy Speaker. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon Shivambu? Hon Shivambu? Hon Shivambu? Mr N F SHIVAMBU: Also, it’s not tradition to disrupt maiden speeches. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, hon Shivambu, you are wrong. Mr N F SHIVAMBU: [Inaudible.] ... is out of order. [Interjections.] You must allow hon Naledi to complete her address now. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon member? Hon Shivambu? Hon Shivambu, you are wrong. Hon Chirwa, withdraw that statement. Mr G A GARDEE: On a point of order, Deputy Speaker. The DEPUTY SPEAKER: What’s your point of order?
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UNREVISED HANSARD JOINT SITTING TUESDAY, 25 JUNE 2019 Page: 126 Mr G A GARDEE: Deputy Speaker, we hope ... The DEPUTY SPEAKER: What’s your point of order, sir? [Interjections.] You keep quiet, hon members! You keep quiet! You should allow your member to speak. [Interjections.] Hon member, go ahead. Mr G A GARDEE: Chief Whip, you see the Deputy Speaker has started what he did ... [Inaudible.] [Interjections.] Deputy Speaker, we call a point of order on two basis. Firstly, a maiden speech cannot be interrupted. [Interjections.] You have allowed that. Secondly, Deputy Speaker, where there is no certainty and there is a dispute about remarks and utterances in
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