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And Larry we did just have a question come in that I will direct to you. Someone asked what is the (inaudible at 1:08:03) on the Center for Integrated Health Solutions doing to help peers learn how to negotiate the dynamic double interchange between primary care and psychiatry practitioners? Larry, if you wouldn’t mind addressing that question. LARRY FRICKS: I’m sorry. You’re directing that at me? LARA HOKEN (ph): Yes, yes. [1:08:30] LARRY FRICKS: That is actually a significant part of the training because peer decision- making is huge. I mean there’s just no way that we’re going to get to a culture that’s person-centered without that and so it is very important to learn how to do that. And I’m very hopeful that as we move towards looking at these mind-body domains that it will pull us together and pull us out of silos as we start to see how it all interacts. I mean the great example for me is stress and what we now know about the science of stress and how that can impact the vulnerable areas of our mind-body. And so I really think the training, spend some time on that, but also it’s going to be a natural outcome of starting to truly believe in looking at the person holistically mind-body and I’m very hopeful about that new way of thinking. LARA HOKEN (ph): Great. Thank you, Larry. And the next question is just a point of clarification for Chuck in relation to the information on the Kaiser studies that were done. There was information about the reduction in numbers, in dollars, for PMPM. If you wouldn’t mind clarifying what that stands for. CHUCK INGOGLIA: PMPM is a term used to describe capitated payment. It stands for Per Member Per Month and it’s a way of financing in certain managed care arrangement by which a group of providers would receive a set fee per member per month. And then there’s some usually risk involved, but technically it means Per Member Per Month. [1:10:41] LARA HOKEN (ph): Thank you. And the next question is around individuals or community behavioral health organizations that are looking to partner with primary care providers. How can these behavioral health organizations ensure the inclusion of primary care providers within their pre-existing chains so that they don’t necessarily have to recreate their existing structures? And also what type of resources or education is out ______________________________________________________________________________________ 25193ea6062d74eaa1fb4080b67349c6a7de8baf.doc Page 16 of 20
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there that is provided specifically for primary care providers on how they can align their resources or their services with pre-existing structures that are within behavioral health organizations? CHUCK INGOGLIA: Well, thanks, that’s an interesting question and I’ll try to answer it in a couple of ways. First this new health home option in Medicaid, we mentioned that there’s a list of chronic conditions that are eligible for participation and those chronic conditions include a mental health condition, a substance abuse disorder, asthma, diabetes, heart disease, and obesity. And states have flexibility in which of those disorders they target.
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