We must also consider how to draw into Europe people who can give us the work

We must also consider how to draw into europe people

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perhaps for those with disabilities. We must also consider how to draw into Europe people who can give us the work force that we require. The ongoing processes on climate change, energy use and energy generation can be done only on a European level. There is no way they can be done country by country any more. We have to think seriously about how we deal with those matters. The latest book by Professor James Lovelock, “The Revenge of Gaia”, says that we are already over the tipping point and heading beyond 400 parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere—heading for 600, which would mean parts of London being under water. A lot of south-east Asia will be under water if we do not do something about that. I think that the EU did not try to direct; it fudged the issue. It did not say what it should have said about the need for different types of energy. It said, “We want more renewables.” There was a kind of wish list, which said, “We’re going to have 15 per cent. renewables; that’s our target.” But how do we get there? The EU is afraid to say some important things. The one I think that it needs to say is that nuclear, with reprocessing using mixed oxide—or MOX—fuel, is a renewable resource, as well as any other. What is the bogeyman in all this? I am sorry that the hon. Member for Stone (Mr. Cash) has gone. The bogeyman is what we frighten people with in Scotland. John Robertson (Glasgow, North-West) (Lab): Sounds like the SNP. Michael Connarty: For some people, the SNP is the bogeyman, but not for others. The European Court of Justice—that is the bogeyman, an organisation that is going to come along and somehow do bad things in the name of justice. Because it is European justice is it bad? Is that the equation? If it is British justice, is it all right? Go and ask people how we treated them within our empire. Ask people now, who are denied justice—for example, children are locked up in Dungavel in Scotland and in other places. That is British justice. British justice is opted out of the UN convention on the rights of the child so that we can lock up asylum seekers’ children. That is British justice. The EU, I hope, will come along and say that that is not acceptable, and that we cannot do it. In fact, the latest Commission report says that we are in breach of the rights of the child across Europe, so we have to think about whether our justice system is better than any other. What is wrong with justice? Two weeks ago, I spoke with Professor Sir David Edward, who, being an ECJ judge, is a leading figure in jurisprudence in Scotland. Nothing that he said about justice, his view of justice and Europe’s view of justice made me afraid of this organisation, the ECJ. The idea of justice is for everyone within the EU. That is what we can contribute. Why should positive parts of the UK’s perception of justice, as put forward earlier, not be available to everyone throughout the EU? Why should it not be available to an enlarged EU, which we have at the moment, or to Turkey, Croatia or any other country that wants to come and join us? I do not think that there is anything
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