What might be the real point of the absurd mathematical discussion at 546ac 71

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70.What might be the real point of the absurd mathematical discussion at 546a–c?71. In contrasting the various constitutions of city and soul, pay particular attention to the themes of per-suasion, force, freedom and violence. (Take a quick look first at how the contrast between persuasion and force is playfully introduced on the opening page of the Republic, at 327c.) For timocracy see 548b–c; oligarchy, 554c–d and 558d; democracy, 557b and 561c–d; tyranny, 569b, 573a–b, 574d–e, and 577c–d.72.Is there any way that popular rule might be able to escape the blistering criticisms that Socrates levels at democracy?73. In which of the four inferior cities do you think a true philosopher would have the best chance of carving out a private life for himself?74.Briefly summarize Socrates’ distinction between necessary and unnecessary desires.75. At the end of book IV (445a–c), Glaucon said that his challenge to Socrates had been met: justice is clearly better than injustice. Socrates, however, suggested that they were just about “to see most clear-ly that this is so,” by examining the various forms of vice. Then followed the “digression” containing the three radical proposals (books V–VII). Does the examination of vice, which occupies book VIII and the beginning of book IX, indeed make the earlier conclusion more compelling? If so, how? Does it strengthen the connection between justice or injustice in a person’s soul and the external actions that are normally thought of as just or unjust (see book IV, question 13)?
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Book IX: Second Response to the Central Challenge580a–592b76. According to Socrates, the first “argument” that the completely just person is better and happier than the completely unjust person is that Glaucon now clearly judges this to be so. He then puts forward a second argument, concerning the reliability of three different kinds of people who each proclaim their own life to be best (580c–583a). Which is the most reliable judge, and what three things make this person most reliable?77.Pleasure is a powerful force in human life. If Socrates argues that the philosopher’s life is best or even happiest, but not that it contains the most pleasure, his conclusion will be hard to accept. Note down the key points in his third argument, which tries to show that the philosopher’s life is most pleasant (see esp. 585b–d and 586d–587a).78.Briefly sketch the “image of the soul in words” with which Socrates ends the discussion.
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