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Gono Semiadi, LIPI: Is there are live trade from Sumatra?
Erwin Sopyan: Not from South Sumatra, but there is a possibility that live pangolins
are transported to Malaysia from Kalimantan, but we can not give information on this
because we did not carry out sufficient study there. In a business perceptive the longer
they are kept alive, the greater loss of weight, meaning less profit when sold. Pangolins
thus have to be sold live as fast as possible, or sold frozen.
Leanne Clark, CPCP: My question relates to your research on wild pangolins: we
noticed that individuals in captivity use two burrows (one sleep, one used); do wild ones
have more than one active burrow?
Erwin Sopyan: This was only a short survey, mainly oriented on trade.
Questions addressed to Ms. Chin Sing Yun, TRAFFIC Southeast Asia
Jason Chin, Taipei Zoo: My question relates to the price of pangolins: is there a
difference for meat and scales during the passing years?
Chin Sing Yun: Yes, the prices are generally increasing. For scales it also depends on
the location; it can range from MYR20 to 100 (USD6-28) per kg. If the location is too
far, there is no point selling to another middleman for higher price.
Questions addressed to Mr. Nguyen Van Thai, Carnivore and Pangolin
Conservation Program
Shukor Md. Nor, UKM: How people trap pangolins? Are they caught live, in traps, or
dead? Is there a method to catch pangolins live?
Nguyen Van Thai: Hunters generally use snares to make more money.
Chris Shepherd, T-SEA: Has anyone ever used pangolin hunting dogs for research?
Leanne Clark: No.

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Questions addressed to Ms. Nguyen Dao Ngoc Van, TRAFFIC Southeast
Asia
Scott Roberton, WCS: How was the statement that confiscation represents 10 per cent
of real trade volume derived, since the information is from the Forest Department and
details generally include all wildlife trade confiscation?
Nguyen Manh Hiep, Viet Nam: This is an estimation and not an official report from
APD. This is a general estimation for wildlife, including plants and animals, but do not
represent specifically the pangolin trade. If the trade is 10 times higher, we have a real
problem with the CITES Secretariat, which means Viet Nam is really bad in terms of
law enforcement.
Nguyen Dao Ngoc Van: We do not to criticize, but just try to get an estimation of the
problem in term of forest protection, including pangolins. To give an idea that
confiscation only represents 10-20% of the actual trade.
Li Zhang, CI: What are the major routes from Southeast Asia to the final destination?
Do you have an estimation of how many percent of pangolin is consumed within the
country and how many are sent through the north to China?