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world, then he can’t be all powerful. If he’s all powerful, and there’s evil in the world, then he can’t be all good. Well, where does evil come from?? Ivan is engaged in a sort of duel with Father Zossima for Alyosha’s soul. He wants to convince Alyosha to abandon his faith because of what he says. It’s an interesting duel because it works for Ivan even if the opposite happens--if Alyosha convinces Ivan that there is a God, he wins (he doesn’t have to suffer in that way) even when he loses the argument the way in which philosophies (both secular and religious) try to show that we’re in a good world is to think at the end of time when all evil will disappear (when all human suffering will disappear) and we will see why our sufferings are justified. i cannot accept the world with or without those justifications even if there is a good answer, it doesn’t matter. i prefer to remain with the examples of evil. what sense does that make?? even if it’s justified rationally, you don’t accept it?? that’s what he means by i don’t accept the world -- not that it doesn’t exist, but that he doesn’t find it morally acceptable rebellion is a version of an argument against God which goes back to the bible itself
october 16 if you translate it, ok, what are they trying to ask here that we are still asking? do we have free will or is everything predetermined, how do we hold people responsible? you learn how to translate from another culture, and you learn that these questions are not dead. it occurred to people then and they used their language and you have to use your language and it’s going to be unintelligible to people unless THEY can translate pg 263 begins at the rebellion chapter i must make you one confession, I could never understand how people could love their neighbors - ivan is saying it’s not possible, everyone cares only about herself or himself - you can pretend, you can fool yourself, but you can’t do it - you love the abstract concept of humanity, but you’re going to be really nasty to particular people - it’s just one’s neighbor that one might love - it’s the explanation that Ivan doesn’t believe, not the event - i believe he did that out of self-laceration -- yes, see how good I am that i’m willing to do this? it’s a form of pride. and it’s not about the other person, it’s about you. - for the sake of charity imposed by duties people do nasty things all the time. sin. why is that? 2 theories-- 1. it’s superficial - a. children are born as blank states, the sins that they do are the ones that they’re taught b. social constructivism -- there are no inherent qualities, it’s just what we condition people to believe c. ofc if you believe that you cannot think that darwin was right. you have to be philosophically a creationist. we’re the only animal that has inherited nothing from its forbearers. every animal does only we dont???

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