Philosophy Discussion Day 15

Presenting rousseaus argument that you can be

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presenting rousseau’s argument that you can be obligated to the state and  still free o what rousseau thinks freedom is
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obedience to self-imposed laws freedom isn’t obedience to externally imposed laws neither is freedom the ability to act on genuine, lawless desires  therefore, it’s the first one o why particular will aims to achieve an individual’s goals general will aims at the the common goods and it is the sum of all the  particular will democracies are the only form of gov’t that allow citizens to be  truly free then discuss people that are outvoted and still in a democracy, the general will is the source of the laws individuals can participate in the general will by having as the object of their  particular will the common good if the general will is the source of law in the democracy and I can participate,  then the laws of the governed come from myself o I am giving myself that law o it's self imposed o i am participating in the general will which is the source of the law in a democracy I am obligated to obey the law but in so doing I am free  because I gave myself that law the law comes from the general will i can participate by having at least part of the objection of my will to be the  common good does the argument succeed in showing that those who were outvoted are free  willed o in a democracy the law is determined by 51% of what the people vote  for what about the other 49%
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it doesn’t seem to show, therefore, that the law that gets passed  is imposed on you by the majority and it doesn’t look like you  are truly free because it is not a self imposed law o is the objection convincing or not its possible for the common good or general will to be the  democratic procedure itself the common good is not necessarily a law itself but the  democratic procedure that determines what the law will  be the general will has as its object the democratic  procedure participating in the general the results of the democratic process should be the law all I wanted were the results of the democratic  process itself to be the law o even though I was apart of the minority if a  part of my object is for the results of the  democratic process to be law then its  sufficient Question 4: Rawls claims that a society is just if and only if it conforms to his “two  principles of justice”.  What are the two principles of justice?  How does Rawls argue for  them?  Is the argument persuasive?
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